Welcome!

Welcome to my Polish blog! My Polish great grandpa was orphaned during the Chicago flu epidemic of 1918 & spent his life looking for all of his siblings. Some family stayed in Chicago & some returned to Poland. Some family was Catholic, & some are believed to be Jewish. I post the things I learn in efforts it may help someone else in their research. I also hope this blog helps me connect with others that know about the people I'm learning about. Digital images of records or links are put inside most postings so you can view records full screen. I encourage comments. Feel free to sign the guestbook, stating who you're looking for. Maybe we can all help each other out this way, because there are many challenges with Polish research. I hope you enjoy learning with me. And I hope to be taught more about my Polish heritage.
I have added a few languages to this blog through Google translate. I hope that it may be accurate enough with the communication of ideas.
Thanks! -Julie

Witam! (Polish translation of Welcome)

Witam w moim polskim blogu! Mój pradziadek został osierocony w czasie epidemii grypy w 1918 roku i spędził wiele lat poszukując swojego rodzeństwa. Część rodziny pozostała w Chicago a część wróciła do Polski. Część rodziny była katolikami a część, jak przypuszczam, wyznania mojżeszowego. Piszę w moim blogu o rzeczach które odkrywam i o których dowiaduję się mając nadzieję, że pomogą one wszystkim zainteresowanym w ich własnych poszukiwaniach. Wierzę, że ten blog pomoże mi w skontaktowaniu się z ludźmi którzy wiedzą coś na temat osób ktorych poszukuję. Zdjęcia cyfrowe lub linki umieszczone są w większości moich komentarzy i artykułów, można więc otworzyć je na cały ekran. Gorąco zachęcam do komentarzy. Proszę wpisać się do księgi gości i podać kogo Państwo szukacie. Może będziemy mogli pomóc sobie nawzajem, ponieważ nie jest łatwo znaleźć dane których szukamy. Mam nadzieję, że zainteresuje Państwa odkrywanie ze mną tajemnic przeszłości. Mam rówież nadzieję poznać lepiej moje polskie dziedzictwo.

Dodałam do mojego blogu automatyczne tłumaczenia poprzez Google. Ufam, że będą wystarczające w zrozumieniu o czym jest mowa w artykułach i komentarzach.

Dziękuję! - Julie

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23 September 2013

New map added about Adam Sanetra, his 2 wives and children.

I just added a map to this blog, done with the new Google maps. I could only do 3 layers, otherwise I would have tried one layer per child. So make sure when you are viewing, that all 3 boxes are clicked to view all the layers. I had all of this info in a very detailed timeline. I also had the other map with just the pins. Following the lines of where they go helps. I could see addresses matching schools this time. There was one address I couldn't find to exist anymore. As you can see, it's a lot of addresses for Adam Sanetra for 19 years, from 1904, until 1923 when he returns back to the USA. I did add in notes about each line and place. This was my first time using these new maps. I really like it and can see lots of other possibilities. If you look on the top left corner of my blog, there's a section called "pages". That's where I store pictures, and other things. Just above "search this blog" is the map. Click on those words to view the map. I made it public, so everyone can see it. Then you can click on the word "home", top left corner of blog under picture heading, to return to posts. This map definitely visually shows they moved around a lot, to pretty far places too.Today when posting this, there was a total of 87 entries on the map. (for all 3 layers)

22 September 2013

new tech stuff for this Sanetra - Żywiec-Zabłocie blog

I've been learning new tech stuff for this blog. This is an old blogger format from several years ago, from the earliest blogger days. I'm finding out it doesn't always show up right on some computer screens, systems or browsers. My Chicago map wasn't showing up right, so I temporarily had to disable that. At the time I created this blog there were no 3 column blogs, so I read a bunch of blogger help pages and changed the html coding to create a 3 column blog. I now realize the technology changes are giving me limitations and glitches so I will start transitioning to a new template so the format is universal on everyone's computer.

Also, I learned how to do a bunch of stuff on the new Google maps, that I have been tracking on paper in a journal. So under blogger pages, I plan to have a maps section. I plan to show many different things. Color coded, layered, etc. I have two composition notebooks almost full, most of which is related to or can be charted by maps. So I will make it visual and available for others to see. I just didn't know how to do it technologically, until I took a seminar and then some one gave me one on one help to show me how to do the things I already had in mind, into actual maps. So good things to come soon!

07 September 2013

Sometimes things aren't in the country where you would expect to find them!

This was actually written March 2012, but it somehow went into draft mode after two days, and stayed there. Just noticed, so re-posting it now.

This post is a bit more indirectly about Żywiec-Zabłocie, Poland. I'm about to celebrate my 16th wedding anniversary with my husband. We love to celebrate by visiting a city and seeing the history, museums and art in that city. We are going to Washington DC again and were making decisions on places to visit. This place is at the top of our list: http://www.hillwoodmuseum.org/welcome.html click on that link to see a video about the place, Hillwood Museum. It is about 16 minutes in length, and I found it all fascinating. Lots of footage of the house, the gardens, a daughter talking about the house and others explaining what the museum is. Here is another link about the woman who created the museum then donated the whole museum to the public. There's several other links at the top of the page: http://www.hillwoodmuseum.org/mmp.html Marjorie Post, was heir to the Post cereal company. In the video it tells about Marjorie went to Russia and bought chalices and crowns thrown in shops so badly tarnished she didn't even realize they were silver. But she knew they were good art. A lot of Russian royal and religious things were destroyed and gotten rid of during revolution and war times. But Marjorie Post purchased and fixed up a lot of things and they are on display in her house. She bought this house to be a museum to display all the things she had to share with the public.

I can't wait to explore the museum! Then I  started thinking, who would have thought, a woman in the United States would have Russian royalty and religious things in her home? ...And who would have thought the Soviets would have had those records that are now in the Auschwitz? (See blog post 29 Aug 2010 or see tag Auschwitz.) I was also surprised that Stanley Sanetra who lived in Minneapolis, then moved to Chicago and worked there, that his retirement record was stored in Atlanta, Georgia. The reason is because the collection got large, so the National Archives moved Chicago railroad retirement records for the Chicago area to Atlanta, Georgia.

So my point in making this post today is, that things are often not where we expect them to be. War, revolutions, or just simply needing more space for record collections can move where things are kept.

Karol Janik and his cousin Andrew Gowin's family. A connection to Adam Sanetra?

Adam Sanetra, his wife Alfreda, and children Bronislaw, and Jozef left Chicago in 1922. They arrived through the Southampton, England port 6 Jun 1922, on their way to Zywiec-Zablocie Poland.  Adam and Alfreda's daughter Jadwiga Sanetra was born 23 Mar 1923. Four months later, 13 Jul 1923, Adam Sanetra went back to the United States. Money was difficult, and Adam knew he could get work in Chicago. He also went to look for the rest of his children. Family letters in the1960's tell us these things. Here is the Ellis Island record of Adam returning in 1923. Hopefully you can see this well. These images are "snippets" or screen shots, with Adam's line highlighted. Click to view full screen.
Adam Sanetra -1923 Ellis Island page 1
Adam Sanetra -1923 Ellis Island page 2
The only cut off part, is the rest of the word "Chicago" on page one. Page 2 is the rest of the word "Poland", and "Zablocie" spelled incorrectly. The thing that puzzles me, is that Adam lists Karol Janik as his brother in law. I still cannot find a connection. It must be through Alfreda's family because I do not know as much about her family. I know people made stuff up for Ellis Island, but to say "brother in law" is not that common for relationships. "Friend" was much more common, which Adam could have said. Here is the link to Adam's record on Ellis Island: http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?MID=16227133940260322368&pID=602107080077&lookup=602107080077&show=\\192.168.100.11\images\T715-3328\T715-33280130.TIF&origFN=\\192.168.100.11\images\T715-3328\T715-33280131.TIF&fromEI=1
Here is a close up of the note about Karol (Karl or Carl in English).


I've looked at Karol Janik as much as I could find the last two years, with my limitations. One other possible connection between Adam and Karol may be with Karol Janik's first wife. I have no idea who she could be. Karol was a widow when he came to America. The widow status is stated on Ellis Island ship manifest and his marriage record to Julia. On Karol's obituary the only children listed are Julia's children. Karol was from Zablocie, just like Adam. Karol stated on Ellis Island manifest he was going to see his cousin Andrew Gowin, in NY. I wasn't sure at first who this Andrew was, but Adam Sanetra's mother was Franciszka Gowin.

There were actually a few Karol Janik's, arriving close in time. The way I know that I have the right one, on Ellis Island, is that I found Karol's naturalization record, with the address of 1058 Marshfield Ave. On there, he stated the ship, and date of arrival at Ellis Island: 16 May 1906. By 1910, Karol was in Chicago. I haven't been able to find him on the 1910 Census yet, but he married Julia in 1910 in Chicago. He is not with his cousin Andrew in NY on the 1910 Census.  Interestingly, Karol's cousin was a tailor, like Karol.

I followed Andrew Gowin on Ellis Island and on the census. Andrew was born 1872. (6 years older than Karol) Andrew's brother Antoni came first in 1899 (arriving in Boston instead of Ellis Island, going immediately to NY), traveling to his uncle Andrew Cohen. Then Andrew and his sister Apolonia arrived in 1901, going to Antoni's house. Then Andrew went back to get his mother, Mary Wieczovek, arriving in 1907. They were all tailors and dressmakers. In fact Andrews's first visis said he had been in Paris 18 months, he was a tailor and his sister a dressmaker. So it would make sense why Karol would first start out with them, until he could go to Chicago. But I wonder if Karol knew anyone in Chicago? Andrew's father was Jan Gowin, his mother Mary born about 1850, was a widow when he brought her to America. So what I can see in summary:
Jan Gowin died before 1907, was married to Mary Wieczovek.
1) Andrew born about 1872
2) Antoni born 19 Mar 1873
            3) Apolonia Gowin born about 1880

I don't know any connection I have yet to these Gowin's. I also can't see the connection between Karol and Adam yet. But I figured I'd put out what I found on ship registries, Census, WWI and state census records so far.