Welcome!

Welcome to my Polish blog! My Polish great grandpa was orphaned during the Chicago flu epidemic of 1918 & spent his life looking for all of his siblings. Some family stayed in Chicago & some returned to Poland. Some family was Catholic, & some are believed to be Jewish. I post the things I learn in efforts it may help someone else in their research. I also hope this blog helps me connect with others that know about the people I'm learning about. Digital images of records or links are put inside most postings so you can view records full screen. I encourage comments. Feel free to sign the guestbook, stating who you're looking for. Maybe we can all help each other out this way, because there are many challenges with Polish research. I hope you enjoy learning with me. And I hope to be taught more about my Polish heritage.
I have added a few languages to this blog through Google translate. I hope that it may be accurate enough with the communication of ideas.
Thanks! -Julie

Witam! (Polish translation of Welcome)

Witam w moim polskim blogu! Mój pradziadek został osierocony w czasie epidemii grypy w 1918 roku i spędził wiele lat poszukując swojego rodzeństwa. Część rodziny pozostała w Chicago a część wróciła do Polski. Część rodziny była katolikami a część, jak przypuszczam, wyznania mojżeszowego. Piszę w moim blogu o rzeczach które odkrywam i o których dowiaduję się mając nadzieję, że pomogą one wszystkim zainteresowanym w ich własnych poszukiwaniach. Wierzę, że ten blog pomoże mi w skontaktowaniu się z ludźmi którzy wiedzą coś na temat osób ktorych poszukuję. Zdjęcia cyfrowe lub linki umieszczone są w większości moich komentarzy i artykułów, można więc otworzyć je na cały ekran. Gorąco zachęcam do komentarzy. Proszę wpisać się do księgi gości i podać kogo Państwo szukacie. Może będziemy mogli pomóc sobie nawzajem, ponieważ nie jest łatwo znaleźć dane których szukamy. Mam nadzieję, że zainteresuje Państwa odkrywanie ze mną tajemnic przeszłości. Mam rówież nadzieję poznać lepiej moje polskie dziedzictwo.

Dodałam do mojego blogu automatyczne tłumaczenia poprzez Google. Ufam, że będą wystarczające w zrozumieniu o czym jest mowa w artykułach i komentarzach.

Dziękuję! - Julie

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23 September 2013

New map added about Adam Sanetra, his 2 wives and children.

I just added a map to this blog, done with the new Google maps. I could only do 3 layers, otherwise I would have tried one layer per child. So make sure when you are viewing, that all 3 boxes are clicked to view all the layers. I had all of this info in a very detailed timeline. I also had the other map with just the pins. Following the lines of where they go helps. I could see addresses matching schools this time. There was one address I couldn't find to exist anymore. As you can see, it's a lot of addresses for Adam Sanetra for 19 years, from 1904, until 1923 when he returns back to the USA. I did add in notes about each line and place. This was my first time using these new maps. I really like it and can see lots of other possibilities. If you look on the top left corner of my blog, there's a section called "pages". That's where I store pictures, and other things. Just above "search this blog" is the map. Click on those words to view the map. I made it public, so everyone can see it. Then you can click on the word "home", top left corner of blog under picture heading, to return to posts. This map definitely visually shows they moved around a lot, to pretty far places too.Today when posting this, there was a total of 87 entries on the map. (for all 3 layers)

22 September 2013

new tech stuff for this Sanetra - Żywiec-Zabłocie blog

I've been learning new tech stuff for this blog. This is an old blogger format from several years ago, from the earliest blogger days. I'm finding out it doesn't always show up right on some computer screens, systems or browsers. My Chicago map wasn't showing up right, so I temporarily had to disable that. At the time I created this blog there were no 3 column blogs, so I read a bunch of blogger help pages and changed the html coding to create a 3 column blog. I now realize the technology changes are giving me limitations and glitches so I will start transitioning to a new template so the format is universal on everyone's computer.

Also, I learned how to do a bunch of stuff on the new Google maps, that I have been tracking on paper in a journal. So under blogger pages, I plan to have a maps section. I plan to show many different things. Color coded, layered, etc. I have two composition notebooks almost full, most of which is related to or can be charted by maps. So I will make it visual and available for others to see. I just didn't know how to do it technologically, until I took a seminar and then some one gave me one on one help to show me how to do the things I already had in mind, into actual maps. So good things to come soon!

07 September 2013

Sometimes things aren't in the country where you would expect to find them!

This was actually written March 2012, but it somehow went into draft mode after two days, and stayed there. Just noticed, so re-posting it now.

This post is a bit more indirectly about Żywiec-Zabłocie, Poland. I'm about to celebrate my 16th wedding anniversary with my husband. We love to celebrate by visiting a city and seeing the history, museums and art in that city. We are going to Washington DC again and were making decisions on places to visit. This place is at the top of our list: http://www.hillwoodmuseum.org/welcome.html click on that link to see a video about the place, Hillwood Museum. It is about 16 minutes in length, and I found it all fascinating. Lots of footage of the house, the gardens, a daughter talking about the house and others explaining what the museum is. Here is another link about the woman who created the museum then donated the whole museum to the public. There's several other links at the top of the page: http://www.hillwoodmuseum.org/mmp.html Marjorie Post, was heir to the Post cereal company. In the video it tells about Marjorie went to Russia and bought chalices and crowns thrown in shops so badly tarnished she didn't even realize they were silver. But she knew they were good art. A lot of Russian royal and religious things were destroyed and gotten rid of during revolution and war times. But Marjorie Post purchased and fixed up a lot of things and they are on display in her house. She bought this house to be a museum to display all the things she had to share with the public.

I can't wait to explore the museum! Then I  started thinking, who would have thought, a woman in the United States would have Russian royalty and religious things in her home? ...And who would have thought the Soviets would have had those records that are now in the Auschwitz? (See blog post 29 Aug 2010 or see tag Auschwitz.) I was also surprised that Stanley Sanetra who lived in Minneapolis, then moved to Chicago and worked there, that his retirement record was stored in Atlanta, Georgia. The reason is because the collection got large, so the National Archives moved Chicago railroad retirement records for the Chicago area to Atlanta, Georgia.

So my point in making this post today is, that things are often not where we expect them to be. War, revolutions, or just simply needing more space for record collections can move where things are kept.

Karol Janik and his cousin Andrew Gowin's family. A connection to Adam Sanetra?

Adam Sanetra, his wife Alfreda, and children Bronislaw, and Jozef left Chicago in 1922. They arrived through the Southampton, England port 6 Jun 1922, on their way to Zywiec-Zablocie Poland.  Adam and Alfreda's daughter Jadwiga Sanetra was born 23 Mar 1923. Four months later, 13 Jul 1923, Adam Sanetra went back to the United States. Money was difficult, and Adam knew he could get work in Chicago. He also went to look for the rest of his children. Family letters in the1960's tell us these things. Here is the Ellis Island record of Adam returning in 1923. Hopefully you can see this well. These images are "snippets" or screen shots, with Adam's line highlighted. Click to view full screen.
Adam Sanetra -1923 Ellis Island page 1
Adam Sanetra -1923 Ellis Island page 2
The only cut off part, is the rest of the word "Chicago" on page one. Page 2 is the rest of the word "Poland", and "Zablocie" spelled incorrectly. The thing that puzzles me, is that Adam lists Karol Janik as his brother in law. I still cannot find a connection. It must be through Alfreda's family because I do not know as much about her family. I know people made stuff up for Ellis Island, but to say "brother in law" is not that common for relationships. "Friend" was much more common, which Adam could have said. Here is the link to Adam's record on Ellis Island: http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?MID=16227133940260322368&pID=602107080077&lookup=602107080077&show=\\192.168.100.11\images\T715-3328\T715-33280130.TIF&origFN=\\192.168.100.11\images\T715-3328\T715-33280131.TIF&fromEI=1
Here is a close up of the note about Karol (Karl or Carl in English).


I've looked at Karol Janik as much as I could find the last two years, with my limitations. One other possible connection between Adam and Karol may be with Karol Janik's first wife. I have no idea who she could be. Karol was a widow when he came to America. The widow status is stated on Ellis Island ship manifest and his marriage record to Julia. On Karol's obituary the only children listed are Julia's children. Karol was from Zablocie, just like Adam. Karol stated on Ellis Island manifest he was going to see his cousin Andrew Gowin, in NY. I wasn't sure at first who this Andrew was, but Adam Sanetra's mother was Franciszka Gowin.

There were actually a few Karol Janik's, arriving close in time. The way I know that I have the right one, on Ellis Island, is that I found Karol's naturalization record, with the address of 1058 Marshfield Ave. On there, he stated the ship, and date of arrival at Ellis Island: 16 May 1906. By 1910, Karol was in Chicago. I haven't been able to find him on the 1910 Census yet, but he married Julia in 1910 in Chicago. He is not with his cousin Andrew in NY on the 1910 Census.  Interestingly, Karol's cousin was a tailor, like Karol.

I followed Andrew Gowin on Ellis Island and on the census. Andrew was born 1872. (6 years older than Karol) Andrew's brother Antoni came first in 1899 (arriving in Boston instead of Ellis Island, going immediately to NY), traveling to his uncle Andrew Cohen. Then Andrew and his sister Apolonia arrived in 1901, going to Antoni's house. Then Andrew went back to get his mother, Mary Wieczovek, arriving in 1907. They were all tailors and dressmakers. In fact Andrews's first visis said he had been in Paris 18 months, he was a tailor and his sister a dressmaker. So it would make sense why Karol would first start out with them, until he could go to Chicago. But I wonder if Karol knew anyone in Chicago? Andrew's father was Jan Gowin, his mother Mary born about 1850, was a widow when he brought her to America. So what I can see in summary:
Jan Gowin died before 1907, was married to Mary Wieczovek.
1) Andrew born about 1872
2) Antoni born 19 Mar 1873
            3) Apolonia Gowin born about 1880

I don't know any connection I have yet to these Gowin's. I also can't see the connection between Karol and Adam yet. But I figured I'd put out what I found on ship registries, Census, WWI and state census records so far.

29 July 2013

Stanley Sanetra in Kankakee, Illinois

(2 Aug 2013-comments continue this post. Death certificate said "fireman for railroad" and my mind thought of one who puts out fires. See comments as well.)

I found that Stanley Sanetra, the son of Thomas Sanetra and Jadwiga Biel died 8 Dec 1971 in Kankakee, Illinois. He is buried in Maternity Catholic Cemetery in Bourbonnais, Illinois. (Part of Kankakee county.) I called the cemetery to confirm this and they said that he is buried there, but the records did not give a plot number, he was sorry. He explained to me that this cemetery was the parish cemetery for Bourbonnais, and it got a little big for them to handle, so it became part of Joliet parish. The only notation was that Stanley had a sister Helen Cooper. Stanley's sister Helen was the informant on the death certificate. She also was the one who found my grandpa Paul Sanetra and wrote him several times, called him, and I think even met him once. The death certificate says Stanley was a fireman for the railroad. I imagine that was very hard for him to be in that bad fire accident then, when he was a fireman. This Stanley lived right around where my family lived, (Paul and Katherine's families lived in Kankakee) and his birth day was so close to our Stanley's. Stanley son of Adam, born 14 Apr 1904. Stanley son of Thomas, born 4 Jun 1904.

07 April 2013

Oczkowski, Oczkowska, and Sanetra sisters- Żywiec, Bielsko, Poland

Adam Sanetra was the youngest of seven children. Here's Adam's siblings and their spouses with the Oczkowska   connections (and a Klosak):
Children of Jozef Sanetra and Franciska Gowin
1. Karol Sanetra- born and died Jan 1865
2. Ludwig Jozef Sanetra- born and died Mar 1866
3. Maria Sanetra born 1867. Married Maciej Caputa 1888. Maciej born 1842. Maria and Maciej's daughter Elzbieta Caputa married Jozef Oczkowska 1911 Żywiec-Zabłocie, Bielsko, Poland. Jozef born 1886, son of Jakub Oczkowska and Marianna Dendys. Maria Sanetra's second marriage to Wojciech Gielata in 1917. Wojciech born 1865.
4. Apolonia Sanetra born 1872. Married Jozef Klosak 1894. Jozef born 1862. Second marriage to Jozef Oczkowski in 1905. Jozef born 1882.
5. Katarzyna Sanetra born 1873. Married Jozef Kozka 1898. Jozef born 1874.
6. Helena Sanetra born 1875. (not sure if married or immigrated)
*7. Adam Sanetra born 1876. Married Rosalie Wandzel 1900. Second marriage to Alfreda Mazukiewicz 1920.

 1894-Klosak, Jozef-Aplonia Sanetra marriage
1905-Oczkowski, Jozef-Apolonia Sanetra mar
1911-Oczkowska, Jozef-Caputa, Elzbieta Caputa mar
I know that Maria Sanetra was in Poland in 1923 when Adam went back to Poland, and that Adam stayed with his sister and brought his family there. (The family he could find: Wife Alfreda and children Bronislaw and Jozef) But that is all that I know of or heard mentioned. We do not have death dates. So by 1923, that leaves siblings Apolonia, Katarzyna and Helena most likely living. Are they still in Poland? Or did they immigrate? One person that interests me is Apolonia. She was married to a Klosak and an Oczkowski. Both those families immigrated same times our family was leaving. I only know Jozef Klosak's marriage date, but wish I knew his parents to see if maybe he was a sibling of Marianna Klosak who brought Bronislawa Sanetra to this country. If that was so, then Marianna would indeed be an aunt of Bronislawa. I've including the marriage info I have. It's really hard to read. It was done in really early digital image days. I'm so grateful someone took these pictures for me. If I can read it right, I think Jozef Klosak's mother's maiden name is Zyzak. Maybe the Latin form of Agnes? My guess is Agnes Zyzak. I can't read the fathers name at all. Click on images to view full screen.

17 February 2013

Karolina Matuszek's picture helps me

Karolina has braids on top her head & is smiling

Soon I hope to tell more of Karolina's story. But today, I just wanted to tell why I like this picture. This is is a picture of Karolina at a school for deaf children in Vienna, about 1916 or 1917. Karolina went to this school for 8 years, and learned German. Karolina's family all learned German to communicate with her when she got home. A handicap was deadly at that time, especially if the Gestapo knew about it. And Karolina lived where the Gestapo invaded. Sometimes we don't know why things happen. But I do believe good things can come from overcoming difficult challenges. Karolina's family was able to be part of the resistance, because they knew German. Karolina was not killed because of a handicap, as many were at that time. Many people never knew she was deaf, she had an excellent education.

I am personally having some challenges, and am considered handicapped. I have trouble walking. I also sometimes have problems with my hands. I have leg braces and knee braces and am braced up most my legs. I use canes to help balance, and a walker. Sometimes I just can't walk at all and use a wheelchair. It's now extremely difficult (and some days impossible) for me to walk up stairs. But my house is 2 stories. My bedroom and bathroom are upstairs and the kitchen is downstairs. I never wanted to move again, but I am moving to a one level house in a month. I just got a wheelchair in November. There is so much to learn and adjust to, it is a bit overwhelming some times. Trying to relearn how to do everything from sitting! But when I sit in my office, and see Karolina's smiling picture, it makes me smile. I think that she would have understood. We had to learn different things, but we both have had to learn to adapt and adjust. Karolina is smiling, looking like she might be happy to be on an adventure. I'm happy I get to learn with my family. I think going away from home, to another country for so long, would be hard, but definitely adventurous. An investment in the future.

Many times the people who went before us understand and can teach us from their many experiences. But even more than just people, our ancestors. Often times, when we are doing something hard, someone else has done that too. Maybe you didn't know before, because you can't always tell from looking at someone. Learning more about them, or looking at that picture may help. You can remember they survived the hard days too! Another thing that cheers me up, is that I even have this picture. It's pretty amazing how I got it and the story with it. A relative who our family lost contact with, (many years ago) saw my blog, and reconnected with me. This picture is from Jolanta Piecuch and her father Adolf Sanetra.

10 January 2013

A friend of mine writes a food blog. I test her recipes. I have food allergies, she does all allergy friendly recipes. Sometimes it is hard for me to visualize things though. Her family talked her into doing video clips on her blog. I found them immensely helpful. I have had several friends tell me I too should post some videos about my work in digitizing and research. I will try to brave it like my friend. A few years ago (Sep 2009) I did a test and made this video clip with just a webcam on my computer. A few people said I should post it on my blog. I will try to start a video page. Not sure what all video clips I can get. Maybe I can get some video clips of my grandparents telling old stories about Paul and Catherine too. So here starts an experiment. Note, there is a new video page added, with this clip. Underneath the welcome heading of the blog.